Can you be a rebound in a poly relationship?

I don’t see why not. Polyamorous relationships have not magically transcended all of the other junk that sometimes comes along with relationships. People in polyamorous relationships are capable of being abusive, telling lies, leaving passive aggressive post-its, taking advantage of people, texting while driving, or otherwise making bad choices.

If you’re worried that someone you’re dating is treating you like a rebound; if you’re worried they are not committed to you or willing to meet your emotional needs; if you’re worried they are using your time, emotional labor, sex, etc. to soothe the pain of a breakup in ways that you’re not okay with - talk to them about it! Let them know your concerns and needs and expectations and give them a chance to process this with you. 

Help. I don’t know what to do. Im falling for my metamour and i don’t want to ruin our little polycule dynamic by bringing it up but it’s starting to hurt.

People change! People grow! People discover new feelings, learn new things, and make new choices. Most healthy relationship dynamics make at least some space for the people involved to be human.

Why do you think expressing your feelings would ruin your polycule’s dynamic? Is it because you don’t think they have feelings for you, and so things would become awkward if your feelings weren’t reciprocated? Is it because your polycule has a pretty well-defined network of relationships that you feel is integral to its functioning? Is it that if you two try dating and it doesn’t work out, everything else might fall apart? Figuring out what you’re afraid of, in as specific terms as possible, can really help you work through it.

In general, someone who’s safe and healthy as part of your polycule will be able to handle this in a generally safe way. Get them alone in a casual way - ask if they want to go for a walk, or whatever - and say “hey, now that we spend a lot of time together, and are connected pretty intimately since we’re both dating the same person/people, I’m realizing that I really like you.” If they say “thanks, but I’d prefer to just stay metamours,” then that won’t feel great, but you’ll have your answer and can start taking steps to move on. If they are interested, then you two can talk about how to move forward without threatening existing relationships.

For my part, I think it’s best to go directly to the person involved first, without a bunch of back-channeling that has the potential to turn into gossip which turns into drama. But you know your partner(s) and your polycule best - it might make sense to check in with your partner(s) and say “I’m developing feelings for Wandolene and really want to talk to them about it - do you have any thoughts or concerns about that?” In everything, be sensitive, honest, and flexible!

I’ve been in a happy committed relationship with my boyfriend for over a year now. I love him to death and would do anything for him as he would for me. lately I started wondering about having a poly relationship with him and I don’t know how to bring it up. We have friends who are in poly relationships so we’re both fine with it but when it would come to us I’m not so sure. I don’t know how to tell him I’ve been thinking about us in that way (being in a poly relationship).

The best way to tell someone anything is clearly, gently, honestly, and with your words. When you two are alone and things are calm, and it seems like a good time to have a serious chat, say “Hey, you know how our friends Harry and Ron and Hermione are poly? Have you ever thought about trying something like that out?”

Think beforehand about what your best case scenario is: do you just want him to be open to the idea so you two can start discussing your own needs and hopes? Do you want him to be open enough to the idea to start taking active steps toward practicing polyamory? Do you just want him to be made aware that you’ve been thinking about this? Identify your goals going in, so you can be clear about what you want from the conversation.

However he responds, make space for that. If he’s totally shut off about it - “Yeah, I can see that it works for them, but it’s never something I’d be interested in” - then you have to decide what to do from there. But your current issue is not knowing how to bring it up, and the answer is just to find a comfortable moment and put it out there for discussion. There’s no secret trick to it!

The hardest part about being in a ldr poly relationship for me is feeling like I’m being left out of my partners life. Their other partners get to go on dates and spend time with them but I don’t and I feel like I’m always the last person to know things that are happening. It makes me feel really distant with my partner. What do you suggest I do?

Long distance is so hard! My current partner and I were long distance for 4 years, and I just ended a 6 year ldr, so I totally feel you. Basically, the number one thing to do is: talk to your partner. Let them know this makes you feel unhappy and see if you two can work together to find ways of bridging that distance that work for both of you.

I find that it’s the little things that can make or break that feeling of connectedness and shared lives. Knowing what they had for lunch or what they chatted about with their boss that day takes a lot more effort to share across distance, but it’s what keeps you close. Silly little texts throughout the day like “hey I saw this dog” go a long way; don’t wait for a long catch-up session.

Here is a previous column of mine where I give some advice about how to stay connected during a long distance relationship. If both of you are okay with it, try and set a routine of more frequent, low-key contact. If their job, routine, or preferences don’t allow for that, you’ll need to talk more about how to get your needs met.

I am also a firm believer in the magic of the group chat. Set up a text chain, a slack team, a google hangout, whatever, with you, them, and their other partners and just be silly and chatty in there. (This doesn’t work for everyone; some people hate group chats. But I find that if you can find a platform that works for everyone, they really foster intimacy.)

Previous columns on this:

Group chats & shared experiences

Keeping communication open across distance

Managing when your LDR partner can pay different attention to their proximal partners

I just found out one of the people I’m dating is cheating on me and I know that sounds so stupid even to me but the three of us had one simple rule you can date anyone you just have to let the rest of us know and he broke it I just I don’t know if I can leave I found out he was cheating because the other person broke up with him and called me to get me to check on him to make sure he wasn’t going to kill himself … just don’t know what to do.

Suicide threats are very serious. You are not his doctor, therapist, or emergency responders, and it is not your responsibility to keep someone from killing themselves. When things are at that point, you need to get professionals involved. If he, or anyone else, does that again, let him know what you can and cannot provide, and encourage him to call a suicide hotline or a healthcare professional. If he refuses, it is always okay to call for professional help yourself.

Someone threatening suicide is in crisis and it is not a crisis you can or should handle yourself. It feels shitty and miserable and dramatic to call 911 on someone you care about, but it is not overreacting, it is the right thing to do. Either he means it, and he is really at risk, which means he needs professional help; or he does not have a strong intention to kill himself, in which case you are the person at risk, and you need to redirect him to professionals who can help him handle whatever feelings are causing him to try and get his needs met by manipulating you. 

What you should do is take some time and get safety for yourself. This person violated a boundary in your relationship, which is not okay. He then reached out to you for help with suicidal thoughts - which was okay on his part, but your role then becomes to connect him with the right services, not to take on his crisis as your own. Just because he is having an emotional breakdown does not change the fact that he violated a boundary, lied to you, and hurt you.

It is okay to set boundaries for yourself. If he calls to get you to check on him again, you can tell him that you cannot do that, but you can help him get the help he needs by providing information about hotlines, connecting him to another friend he can talk to, or calling professionals. You can tell him now that you are not able to be his mental health crisis responder, and make recommendations to help him find a support system that can function for him. His emotions are not your fault. His behavior is not your responsibility. 

How do I begin? I feel like I’ve always been poly, but I don’t know how to approach the topic with people I flirt with. Is it something I drop at the beginning to get something going, or something I bring up after the goings gotten started? I’m in a difficult situation trying to begin polyamory as a single cisgendered male. Or am I? Any advice I can glean to get the ball rolling? I read the ethical slut, great book, btw. Thanks for being you! And all the work you do!

First, thank you for your lovely compliments, and kudos for doing your homework and stepping into this journey informed! You are right that cis men trying to date multiple people may be up against some mistrust or skepticism - not your fault, but your reputation has been marred by a bunch of other skeezy cis men out there peeing in the dating pool.

The best bet is to have polyamory on the table from the start - that’s one reason I like online dating, because I can filter for people who are also listed as non-monogamous and I can bring it up and check-in about it before putting in the effort of going on a date. But if you’re flirting with someone in person, it’s harder. My personal rule is to bring it up on the first or second date and always before sex happens. Some people will back out on you! That’s okay. Learn to be gracious and honest.

Also, be smart about how you communicate the fact that this will be your first polyamorous relationship, or that you’re new to practicing polyamory. I, and many other polyamorous people, are very weary of acting as “training wheels” for people exploring polyamory. There is a lot of emotional labor that goes into walking someone through their first ride on the roller coaster of polyamorous feels, so be conscious of that. Don’t lie about being more experienced than you are; but don’t treat anyone like they’re obligated to be your polyamorous mentor. Ask for help when you need it, be honest and open, but don’t depend on anyone else to help you process or learn. 

My partner finally had sex with someone else (which I thought was gonna be fine), but I feel all kinds of pain. Knots in my stomach, couldn’t sleep—I actually literally made myself sick. I’m not sure why I feel this way—help! I was feeling prepared for this before but it feels so raw again.

I am really sorry that you are feeling this way! First, think about whether this is a common reaction to stress or fear in your life. This kind of extreme response to anxiety might be part of a larger problem. It’s worth talking to a doctor or mental health professional about how your sleep and stomach are impacted by your emotions. There may be ways you can get help.

Second, take some time to think through why you feel this bad. Sometimes, strong emotions are important clues that let us know we have a need that isn’t getting met. And other times, they are just mind gremlins throwing tantrums. You need to figure out whether this is a signal that you and your partner have a lot more work to do to help you feel safe and healthy, or whether this is an annoying ‘side effect’ of your new arrangement that you need to wait out or mitigate.

What kinds of thoughts and fears are going through your head and accompanying the pain? Can you identify and put them into words? Are there phrases or images that are coming up for you? Have you felt like this before, and if so, what were the trigger and the solution then? If you had a “best case scenario” magic wand to get whatever you wanted, what would you want? Those are good starting points for a conversation with your partner.

Do you know if polyamory applies to queerplatonic relationships? I have multiple queerplatonic partners and am trying to find a romantic one. Does this count as polyamory?

I have an FAQ page about this!

I’ve never been in a poly relationship but I’ve been thinking. There’s a girl I like, and I also like her boyfriend. I can imagine being with them, makes me happy to think about and the girl suggested we get together. How do I know poly is for me?

I also have an FAQ for this!

I recently discovered I’m polyam and I live in the south (a very slightly more liberal area, but still pretty conservative.) How do I find other poly people? 

And I have an FAQ page about this!

I’m dating this person whom I love very much but at the same time I love this other person I also love the same amount. I don’t thing person #1 is open to a poly relationship. How do I approach this?

Here’s my FAQ about this!

So I’m pretty sure I’m polyamorous but my mom is completely against polyamory (it came up because my friend and his boyfriend are moving in with their boyfriend).

Your mom’s opinions and reality do not have to be your opinions and reality. It is okay to do or be something that other people don’t approve of.

If there is an issue of safety - if you still live with your mom and feel that she would act in a way that threatens your well-being, security, or relationships - then it is okay to stay closeted and wait it out.

But it’s not your job to convince your mom that polyamory is healthy and acceptable. Changing her mind is not a prerequisite to you living a healthy, happy life and having fulfilling polyamorous relationships. 

I have family members who disapprove of my polyamory. I have people in my life who disapprove of my career choices, my diet, my hairstyle, whatever. There are a frighteningly large number of people in my country who disapprove of my beliefs and my personal right to exist. That means I need to take steps to protect myself, emotionally, physically, financially, etc. but it doesn’t mean I cannot or should not be my real, best self.

Some other posts about this:

Hi! So I know that two couples coming together and forming a quad relationship or a group marriage type of situation is something that is kind of common, but have you ever heard of like, two triads coming together and forming a relationship among each other? Thank you!

Have I heard of this? No. But I’m only one human who has walked this earth for fewer than three decades and I’ve only ever lived in a handful of places. Me being aware of something means very little!

It’s definitely something that can happen, and I’m sure it has at some point, given the vast range of human experience. But it doesn’t matter, really, what other people do or have done. If you want to seek that in your own life, go for it!

If you want to seek out stories of other people in a similar situation, try some of the forums and other resources on my page here.

“Having the capacity to feel romantic attraction for multiple people is polyamory, even if you are not acting on it.” does it follow that monogamous ppl don’t have the capacity to feel romantic attraction for multiple ppl at once? I thought being poly was about choosing to act on that attraction, and mono was choosing not to?

This is a topic that blows up my blog every time I get questions about it, and I’m tired of it, but I think it’s really important that we in the polyamorous community work things out so we don’t hurt ourselves, each other, or anyone else.

Dan Savage and the book Sex At Dawn put forward the argument that monogamy is unnatural and purely a social construction; so all humans are inherently polyamorous and being monogamous means choosing to not act on our natural attraction to other people. So that is one way of thinking about it. I don’t believe that, but many people do.

In an old column, Dan Savage tells one person that they cannot have “poly” as an identity. (He does not similarly correct people who identify as “a furry” or “a kinkster” - he reserves this identity and language policing for people who see polyamory as an identity.) When someone on twitter pointed out that this “it’s a choice whether or not to give in to that desire, not an inherent identity” rhetoric sounds similar to what we hear from anti-gay bigots, he doubled down on his insistence that polyamory is simply not an identity. Dan Savage is welcome to his perspective, but I do not appreciate his claim that his perspective is the only correct one and thus gives him the authority to invalidate the identity of anyone who experiences their polyamory or their monogamy as anything besides a choice. 

Personally, I think that polyamory and monogamy can be different ways of being, along a spectrum much like the Kinsey Scale. Or, it can be a choice. Some people are happiest and most fulfilled in monogamous relationships. Some people are happiest and most fulfilled in polyamorous relationships. Some people could make either one work. For some people, it feels like an identity; for others, it is a disciplined choice. Dan Savage is clearly in that second camp, which is fine, but the issue is he believes that everyone else is as well, and so he has the right to tell people their experience of their identity isn’t accurate. It’s important, I feel, not to silence or deny people’s experiences of themselves, even if they don’t line up with our own.

It’s also important to recognize that we get a lot of messages about monogamy from the time we are born, so it’s disingenuous to act like there’s some neurological structure in every person’s brain that’s either shaped like POLY or shaped like MONO. Many people have traumas, internalized images or expectations about love, specific fears or insecurities, or other things that make them more or less able to be happy and fulfilled in a poly or a mono relationship. We are not all these blank slates that, according to evolutionary psychology, can all just jump into nonmonogamy.

It is critical that we in the polyamorous community honor and respect monogamy and monogamous people. If you believe that everyone is actually capable of polyamory, deep down, and all it takes is education and overcoming some assumptions to totally be okay in a poly relationship, you risk badgering and pressuring people in ways that are not appropriate, and disrespecting their feelings and relationships. If someone identifies as monogamous, fine. If someone identifies as polyamorous, fine. If someone believes that it’s not an inherent identity but rather a choice to either act on or resist certain urges, fine. What’s not fine is to insist that your internal experience generalizes to everyone’s, and so people who have a different perspective than you must be wrong. 

I get a lot of messages from people on this blog who deeply feel that their polyamory is a part of who they are and not something they can simply choose to give up. I get a lot of messages from people on this blog who deeply feel that their monogamy is a part of who they are and not something they can simply opt out of. There is a lot of pain and grief in these messages. I hear from lots of people who desperately want to think themselves into polyamory or choose themselves into monogamy, but can’t. I also think that this “polyamory and monogamy are choices anyone can make” rhetoric creates a lot of hurt, because people think “if my partner truly loved me enough, they’d be able to choose polyamory or act monogamously for me, but they won’t make that choice for me - I’m not good enough, I’m not worth it, they refuse to do that for me.” But I hear from people who do love their partners, fiercely and deeply, and if they could make that choice, they would - but something in them cannot change.

So I believe, based on my experience and the reports of others, that healthy polyamory is not an option available to everyone; and healthy monogamy is not an option available to everyone. For some people, both are options! For some people, it’s not really an “option.” Turns out, there are lots of ways to be a person. There are lots of ways to be in relationships. There are lots of ways to conceptualize your identity and your choices. Remember that your perspective isn’t the only one out there. Someone doing things differently from you doesn’t invalidate you; and it doesn’t mean you should go and invalidate them.

Do you have any book recs, fic recs, or show recs that are polyamory positive? I’d prefer it if the main character has two or more partners, but those partners aren’t romantically involved with each other. I loved the captain america fanfic: Known Associates by thingswithwings.

I answered a similar question a few weeks ago: you can see my answer here! After I published that, I got this message from @scutellatebooted:

For the anon looking for good polyships in media, Leverage has one! It is confirmed by the creators but the show was canceled before they fully developed it. That being said, the interactions between the characters involved are loving, healthy, and supportive - they totally read as romantic even though only two of the three are officially “dating.” In fact, all the relationships are fantastic. There’s no shame for divorced or promiscuous individuals and family is more than blood relatives.

I personally love the show Steven Universe for its depiction of all the different types of love. Greg can be a great dad to Steven even though he can’t raise him in the traditional sense; Pearl and Garnet and Amethyst are all united by their love for Steven and Rose and are co-parenting him and co-habiting; Pearl learns to manage her complicated feelings about and connections to Greg; etc.

I also loved the book The Color Purple for the way it depicted deep love between multiple people - again, not overtly or explicitly polyamorous, but I wrote a paper for one of my classes in college that was a close-reading of the book through a polyamorous lens, and I definitely feel that it’s an exploration of poly themes.

In addition to the lists in my answer previously linked, here are some other collections of resources:

For some reason i’ve always had this question: is polyamory simply defined by being in a relationship with more than one people or it can also be used if someone isn’t in a relationship but actually feels romantic attraction for more than one?

Polyamory can be understood as as a behavior or sexual/relationship practice or as an identity/way of being. If you understand it as a behavior, then a person can be inclined toward polyamory, but the definition is more limited to the actual practice. If you understand it as an identity, then a person can be polyamorous no matter how many relationships they are or are not in. 

I personally experience my polyamory as a part of my identity, so I am polyamorous all of the time. If all my partners left me tomorrow and I was totally single, I would still be polyamorous. If all but one of my partners left me tomorrow and I was only dating one person, our relationship would still be polyamorous. Having the capacity to feel romantic attraction for multiple people is polyamory, even if you are not acting on it. Just like I am still straight even if I am not in a relationship or not currently being attracted to a sexy man right at this moment.

Hi um I’m 13 and I’ve just started thinking that I might be poly, but I feel like I would only be okay if it was, say, a group of 3 people all dating each other, not like dating two people separately? Idk how this works really but I’ve seen it being a thing where the partners are completely separate? But I don’t think I’d like that? Also I think I would be okay in a mono relationship as well? Like if I loved the person I was with and they weren’t comfortable with it? Is all of this okay?

Dating multiple people who are all dating each other is called polyfidelity, and specific arrangements are called a a triad (3 people) or quad (four people), and so forth. It is okay to identify as polyamorous and only want polyfidelity! It’s a good thing to know what you want and be able to speak that.

It is also okay to identify as polyamorous and also be okay in a monogamous relationship! Being able to be happy, healthy and fulfilled in a polyamorous or a monogamous relationship is very possible, and very much okay. All of this is okay - you are you, and you are okay. 

Know that, at thirteen, a lot of your self is still developing and being discovered. It is very okay to identify one way, then realize something else is more accurate later. It is very okay to try out different relationships and identities and let go of the ones that don’t work for you. Let yourself grow and learn! Take pride in who you are now, but don’t become so entrenched in who you are at thirteen that you aren’t able to learn and try new things!

Some people figure out who they are at thirteen and it doesn’t change much, and other people see their identities grow and shift as they get older and have new experiences. Both are very normal, and very okay. At every stage in your life and relationships, check in with yourself: are you happy and healthy? are you safe and secure in your relationships? If so, you’re fine. Take care of yourself, let you be you, and the words for who and what you are will come.

How can I get my boyfriend to fall in love with me again?

Short, sad answer: you can’t.

There is no magical set of words or actions anyone can take that will reliably change or alter another person’s thoughts or feelings.

If there is a specific issue that has come between you two - a communication breakdown, a source of resentment, a fading sex life - talk openly with him about what it would take to repair it, what each of you are willing to do, and then work together on that healing project.

But if someone doesn’t love you, there’s not much that can be done besides to graciously receive that information and respond to it as best you can. Do what you need to heal, to take space, to process, and then move forward, knowing that the only person you can control is you. 

I was wondering if you know of any advice blogs that are just as active and nice and friendly as your but oriented to the S&M sort of world at all? Most blogs I find are all straight-up porn and that’s not what I’m looking for…I Have Questions, people! Lol and nobody to answer them.

Well, I am a kinky fucker, so I am down to try and answer any BDSM questions. Or, you can check out some of these blogs (many of them also include porn):

http://sirs-classroom.tumblr.com/

http://subguide.tumblr.com/

http://dominantlife.tumblr.com/library

http://gentle-dominant.com/the-list (a list of blogs, many of which answer questions and give advice even if they aren’t explicitly advice column blogs)

http://www.thekinkrealm.com/

http://www.submissiveguide.com/tag/advice/

https://askdaddykenneth.com/

http://kinkandcode.com/category/advice-thoughts-2/sex-advice-from-a-fuck-up/

https://www.patreon.com/wickedgrounds (behind a Patreon pay wall)

http://cgl-advice.tumblr.com/ (specific to age play, which some may find triggering)

http://www.askpapabear.com/ (specific to furries, but covers BDSM as well)

Me and my boyfriend have been together for 2 years now and for the past few months I have been going through family problems. I guess in a way I’ve been letting it out on him which I don’t purposely do it just I have so much going on and I feel like my relationship is falling apart. He said “this relationship isn’t for us” but I know he loves me and I love him but I feel like he’s giving up on me what should I do I love him so much.

If someone has decided that the best thing for them to do is to leave, you gotta let them leave. You can believe deeply that he’s making the wrong choice, that you two love each other and that you can and should work this out - but there is no guarantee that you can get him to feel the same way.

If you know that your family problems and life stresses are wearing down on your relationship, and you are fully committed to working on healing that, you can try to have that conversation with your boyfriend. You can say something like “I know that our relationship has carried a lot of tension and negativity because of the stress I bring into our time together. I want to fix and heal that. I am committed to going to therapy to find healthier ways to manage my stress, I am committed to intentionally bringing presence and positivity into our time together, I am committed to finding other support systems to help me through this family situation, etc.” Make space for him to let you know what, specifically, he needs from you to get through this.

If he accepts - if he wants to try and fix what has fallen apart - then you need to commit 100% to those promises and work on rebuilding. But there is no guarantee that he will accept, and he has no obligation to. If he has decided that this relationship isn’t one he wants to stay in, it is okay for him to make that call. Try to be gracious about respecting his choice, and find ways to care for yourself in the event of a breakup.

Whether you two stay together or not, it sounds like you very much need to work on healthy stress management and positive communication strategies to help buffer your relationships, romantic and otherwise, against life stresses. Even if this relationship ends, you can learn a lot about how to lay a strong foundation for future relationships.

So, I’m aromantic and poly but I don’t know if I can be poly if I can’t be attracted to anyone romantically, does that still make me poly if I like them platonically?

If identifying as polyamorous helps you build happy, healthy, fulfilling relationships, great! If not, don’t worry about it! I have an FAQ page about this here.

Be open and clear with people about what you can and can’t offer and what you are and are not looking for. Identifying openly as polyamorous may lead people to believe that you could be interested in a romantic relationship - so just practice openness and honesty and remember that assumptions cause a lot of pain and risk on both sides.

You may have a hard time explaining your identity to people who don’t understand how “person with multiple platonic relationships” differs from most other people they know. It’s often nice to have a quick, practiced explanation of what you’re all about and what certain terms and practices mean to you. It is also okay not to share certain aspects of your identity with people you don’t trust to understand or respond in a positive way, or just if you’re not in the mood for that kind of conversation.

I’ve been with my partner for almost a year now and I still don’t have their phone number or social media accounts? I’ve talked with one of their other partners before but sometimes I wonder if maybe they’re a fake and that’s why they won’t tell me any of their information? I feel like at this point I should at least have their phone number but I don’t? It just is really weird for me? What do you suggest I do? I’ve asked about it before and they just got really defensive.

Try bringing it up again, in as gentle and non-accusatory a way as possible. “Hey, I know this is kind of a weird subject for us, but I really like being able to connect with my partner(s) by texting and seeing what’s on their Facebook or Instagram. Is that something you’re comfortable with sharing?”

If they say no, ask them why not. If you can have an open conversation about each of your preferences when it comes to privacy, great! But if they respond to something reasonable - a request that you talk about this; not a demand for their information - with unhealthy communication strategies like avoidance or accusations, then you have a lot of information about this person’s capacity for handling openness about tough topics.

If this is a dealbreaker for you, or you are worried that something is fishy or unhealthy, that’s okay. You don’t need to stay in a situation that isn’t working for you. And you don’t need to go all private-eye on them; it’s not a requirement that you “prove” something is going on if the information about the situation is enough for you to decide it’s not working. No one is obligated to give you their phone number or social media; but you’re not obligated to stay in a relationship with a level of secrecy that makes you uncomfortable.